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My Little Fortress 2 - Part Tres by Metal-Kitty My Little Fortress 2 - Part Tres by Metal-Kitty
Okay folks...

So, I got bored and was looking at TF2 stuff and maps again, and it all started cause I thought 'Hey, the Iron Curtain looks like tech they'd use in Equestria (most of their machines seem to be at least partially wooden, even if they act more high tech than that) Soo yeah. That then became a quest of making my own weapon ideas. Then it evolved back into 'who would be what' because... well... I had to fit the weapons with the users' personalities.

Then it struck me - Medieval Mode. Using some of the alternate names for classes from that, as well as some clever ideas on my end, I came to this. While reasons for most of the characters are much the same, here's a few things I added in...

- I wanted to give Fluttershy a sniper rifle called 'The Stare' and dress her in her Dangerous Mission outfit - with Angel dressed as the actual Sniper (I figured her Melee weapon would be Discord)
- Once more, Iron Curtain as a partially wooden weapon made for a good idea, so I gave Big Mac a similar minigun.
- I wanted to change some appearances - Rarity particularly. A mask does not suit her.
- I found out Pinkie's voice actress has a degree in Engineering. Now she REALLY breaks the forth wall!
- I wanted to give Rainbow Dash a Wonderbolts inspired outfit
- Muffin Launcher for Derpy. 'Nuff said.
- I tried to give each of them unique weapons and slightly altered designs, tho some of it sticks out more than others (especially Dash's bat. I got lazy and uninspired by that... shoulda worked with scattergun.)

Also, changed things up by making Applejack a Demomare, being the most physical class when wearing Demoknight gear. Also, apple cider drunk.

MEDIEVAL MODE NAMES OF WORTH:
For those unknowing, in Medieval Mode, if the chat changes aint disabled, classes maybe called other things. This is not a complete list, just a list of factors that aided in this stuff.

MEDIC - Wizard, Apothacary
SNIPER - Ranger, Beast Master, Woodsman
SPY - Cutpurse, Blackguard
SCOUT - Runner, Advance Guard
DEMOMAN - Paladin, Blades for Hire
ENGINEER - Smith, Smithy, Metal Worker

Thats all for now! I'm actually considering designing weapon set ideas for this particular lineup! Tell me what ya think? :D

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My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic (C) Hasbro and Lauren Faust
TF2 (C) Valve
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chocolatepony157 Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
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fusionguybrony Featured By Owner Apr 17, 2014  Student Filmographer
Make this versus this flaminghammers1997.deviantart.… (aka freak fortress 2 mod ponified)
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fusionguybrony Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2014  Student Filmographer
Are you a fan of vsh/freak fortress 2 mod in tf2? If you are, you can try and help my steam group, steamcommunity.com/groups/frea… , for a project. You can say no, it's fine.
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SnowFlakeDrop Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2014  Student Digital Artist
xan you make mlf in this style?:
fluttershy=medic
twilight=sniper
zecora=demoman
rainbow dash=scout
pinkie pie=heavy (or pyro)
applejack=engineer
rarity=spy
derpy=soldier
can you pls make it for me?
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Metal-Kitty Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2014
I can.  But I won't. :)
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SnowFlakeDrop Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2014  Student Digital Artist
-_-
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cheshcat2 Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2014
personally i would of made fluttershy the medic
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SnowFlakeDrop Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2014  Student Digital Artist
yes
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Metal-Kitty Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2014
Here's the way I considered it.  When it comes to the TF2 crew, the Medic is the one that truly amazes and awes the others on the battlefield with technology that is borderline magical in it's function.  The engineer, smart as he is, is still rather mundane, and the most amazing thing he has is teleporters.  The Medic buffs and shields his allies, heals them, and in MvM can generate a shield that fries robots and stops their bullets.

To me, the whole 'Twilight as Sniper, Fluttershy as Medic' thing is a situation where the roles reversed work better; after all, Fluttershy is timid, and preferes to maintain her distance from conflict.

Ultimately, I consider the Meet the Medic video; I could not see Twilight Sparkle sitting behind a rock, staring in awe as Fluttershy pushed forward, turning an ally into an ubercharged death machine.  I also couldn't see Fluttershy experimenting on their hearts either.  It seemed too backwards.

Consider this; which do you think is Fluttershy's preferred environment? In a laboratory surrounded by high tech equipment, or in the wilderness with a bunch of animals? And no, the doves don't really count.
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watcher25 Featured By Owner Jan 4, 2014
Ah... Weird because those are two that I would have thought if as such...
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watcher25 Featured By Owner Jan 2, 2014
oh, ok, cool putting some of them in less stereotypical roles, nice.
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Metal-Kitty Featured By Owner Jan 3, 2014
Some of their roles aren't even stereotypical - Twilight Sniper and Spike Soldier never made sense to begin with.
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spikestormify Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2013
What's aalternate names for the unmentioned classes
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shadowthehedchogfile Featured By Owner Dec 23, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
its metal kitty`s opinion to make fluttershy and twilight switch classes, and im ok with that :)
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AmrasFelagund Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2013
I'd play it. You put way more thought into these than I've seen anyone else do. Now I can't really see anypony else in these roles!
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Metal-Kitty Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2013
I put enough thought to say that while these are some of the best mixes in my own opinion, that I can say they aren't the only viable ones.  These are just the ones I liked most and/or made the most sense to me.

Basically, I had a few factors to decide;

Which class would each pony play if they were playing this game?
Which classes seem to mimic the ponies best in Medieval mode?
Which classes do not conflict with important aspects of the characters?

I considered important aspects; Twilight's brains, Fluttershy's shyness, Rarity's perceptiveness/grace, Rainbow's arrogance and need to win, Applejack's strength and patience, and Pinkie.... well, Pinkie could probably be any class, really.  I weeded out concepts I felt lived short of the characters' potential (sniping is way too narrow for Twilight's smarts, Pinkie Pyro is too obvious, a southern accent an engineer does not make...) and I even questioned ones that work.

This was a fun project, really; I like to consider possibilities and new ideas, even if others don't really care for them.
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AmrasFelagund Featured By Owner Nov 17, 2013
Looking at the art, I think it's obvious that Celestia and Luna fill in for Redmond and Blutarch. But who is the Administrator? Who is Gray Mann? Who is Saxton Hale? I would like to know. (I like to think that Lauren Faust's OC is the Administrator, and Iron Will as Saxton Hale. As for Gray Mann... Maybe Chrysalis?)
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Metal-Kitty Featured By Owner Nov 17, 2013
Administrator: Normally I would say Discord, but he's Flutters' melee weapon, so Fausticorn might not be a bad idea.
Gray Mann: ??? (still kinda working that one out)
Saxton Hale: Iron Will
Miss Pauling: Cadence
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AmrasFelagund Featured By Owner Nov 17, 2013
I was thinking that Cadance would be a good Ms. Pauling, especially if Fausticorn is the Admin. (I call her OC Fauna Luster; anagrams FTW!)
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hamcon Featured By Owner Oct 20, 2013  Student Writer
I actually made a TF2/ MLP story, but this is what I did for the two team

RED
Sniper/Twilight
Engineer/Applejack
Soldier/Spike
Scout/Rainbow Dash
Spy/Rarity
Medic/Fluttershy
Demo/Zecora
Pyro/Pinkie Pie
Heavy/Big Mac

BLU
Sniper/Cheerilee
Engineer/Applebloom
Soldier/Derpy
Scout/Scootaloo
Spy/Sweetie Belle
Medic/Nurse Blueheart (Realized way to late about Trixie)
Demo/Berry Bunch
Pyro/Dinky Doo
Heavy/ Shining Armour (because I could not think of anyone else that would fit Heavy)
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Metal-Kitty Featured By Owner Oct 21, 2013
Yeah, problem is? Those matchups are TERRIBLE and extremely forced.  What of them doesn't rely on superficial stereotypes that completely ignore defining characteristics of the ponies simply make no sense at all and strike me as a method of 'putting them somewhere that's left over.'  Some of the excuses for them are rather shallow (Twilight Sniper - because Sniping takes intelligence.  Apple-Engi - because accents that's why) and some of them lack any form of inventiveness at all (Fluttermedic - because healing.  Pinkie Pyro - because Pyroland).

When I made these matchups? I wanted to make SENSE.  I wanted to negotiate the entirity of a pony's character as opposed to picking some trivial thing and sticking with it.  Twilight is a scholar/magician.  Fluttershy is shy.  Pinkie uses gadgets and throws parties.  Applejack is rough-and-tumble.  Spike is a fire-breathing dragon.

So almost the entirity of the RED lineup, I do not care for.

BLU? I'da gone differently with a lot.  Cheerilee seems to rely on the forced 'Intelligence-Sniper' concept, although in this case it might not be too off considering she isn't at the same level of weirdness that Twilight is.  Might have to stew on that a bit.  I don't much care for the Crusaders as Mercs - Spike feels forced enough as is (though he is a dragon so...)  Demo-Berry... I'll let slide, if only because of her fan interpretation.  I'd have picked Derpy before Dinky for the Pyro.  Shining Armor strikes me more as Soldier/Demo material than Heavy (I'd have picked Donut Joe for that).

Them's my two cents.
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Blackfire2Q Featured By Owner Nov 14, 2013  Student Artist
Ok frist: tf2 is based on stereotypes so it makes sense to put stereotype ponies with there stereotype class, second: applejack demo man? The reason they make her an engieer is because they are both cowboy, hill billies , redneck it fits! But this is your view not mine btw great work on the drawing!
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Metal-Kitty Featured By Owner Nov 14, 2013
Okay, frist, Team Fortress 2 is most certainly not about stereotypes; what made you think that? Just because it has characters of different backgrounds?  Secondly, as a born texan I almost feel offended you would call the Engineer a hillbilly - he most certainly is not.  He is also not a farmer, nore is he a rancher, nor does he seem a rodeo type.  He's a different kind of cowboy.  The reason people make Applejack Engineer is because she has an accent - that is all.

I based my match-ups on skill and habbit.  Applejack is not a 'constructor' character.  She does not share the same tendencies of the engineer.  She is a fighter, and relying on tools seems like something she'd find insulting.  Characters that would be engineer before Applejack in my setups? Twilight Sparkle (smart, teleporters), Pinkie Pie (gadget user), Trixie (stage magician), Flim or Flam.

How does one equate to stereotypes in something where they are rare, also? Twilight Sparkle does not have an Australian accent.  Big Mac doesn't have a russian one.  Stereotypes are a dumb thing to play on in something where they are so short in supply.

I put more thought into this than that.  In my mind, if you're going to do something, you put thought into it, not a passing glance.
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Blackfire2Q Featured By Owner Nov 14, 2013  Student Artist
Ok sorry to offend jeez I have autism I have trouble with this shit but it's just some of these ponies don't fit to the class. Ok I get what your saying but in my view demo man and applejack do not fit. Demo man = a explosive warrior that has aligning for heads and blood, fights for freedom, applejack = hard , honest worker...doesnt't really fit in my book (note MY book) but the one that really gets me is pinkie just because the voice actor has something to do with engieer does not mean the pony does too. Pinkie and fluttershy are both voiced by the same actor so fluttershy should be an engieer too then ( thought I do thinkore fluttershy as miss pualie both are shy, kind and brony can ship fluttershy and dashie win win) what you need to focus on is the pony not the actor "witch class is pinkie more close too?" But there is some of them I agree with twilight (as much as I hate her) is a good medic makes sense idk when setting up ponies to classes it's hard oh and of you put thought into it then why is derpy "muffin luacher" and applejack "apple cider drunk" ok thought is not just derpy + luacher = soidler but then again this is my MY opioion (p.s it's not the f*cking accent I just thought it would fit)
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Metal-Kitty Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2013
Who said I was offended? I'm just pointing stuff out.

As for the autism thing? Won't buy you sympathy from me; if you can debate, you can stand a rebuttle.

Under your own argument, NONE of the ponies would fit any of the classes, because NONE of them do exactly what their classes do.  All AJ has in common with Engi is an accent; she's strong, he's squishy.  He's smart, she thinks 1 pony + 100 trees is fancy mathematics.  She sang while her family built a barn.  She *CAN* fight though.  The Demoman with his Demoknight build is one of the strongest melee combatants in game.

When it comes to guns? NONE of them match.  Because far as we know guns may not exist in equestria.  I judged by their skills as I saw put forth in Medieval Mode; in which the Engineer is nearly useless (a fact that almost won Fluttershy the role of Engi in my matchups)
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Blackfire2Q Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2013  Student Artist
Ok whatever we have different views on this
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Metal-Kitty Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2013
Clearly.
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AydinPrower7 Featured By Owner Sep 21, 2013   General Artist
This isn't how I would've cast it, but I still love it! =D
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Metal-Kitty Featured By Owner Sep 21, 2013
I get that.  A lot.

And I hope not to sound mean, but I really, REALLY don't care how anyone else would cast it. :P
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AydinPrower7 Featured By Owner Sep 22, 2013   General Artist
Nah, you don't sound mean. I understand. =)
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Metal-Kitty Featured By Owner Sep 22, 2013
Ah, that's good. :P

I'll give a few people have made good points - but I had a good method to judge my match-ups.
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AydinPrower7 Featured By Owner Sep 22, 2013   General Artist
:nod: I see.
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JamesRye Featured By Owner Sep 1, 2013
I still think Snowflake makes a way better Soldier than Derpy. That Soldier role was MADE for him! Plus that way the TF2 pony team would get a third male in instead of only two.^^
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Metal-Kitty Featured By Owner Sep 1, 2013
Snowflake's only known line is 'Yeah!', has no personality that we know of, and has no notable skills beyond what we can assume is being strong.  The role cannot be made for a character who is, for all intents and purposes, a blank slate.

Plus, it wouldn't be quite as fun if it wasn't Derpy.
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JamesRye Featured By Owner Sep 2, 2013
The Soldier is very loud in the "let's meet the" series, the loudest class of all of them. Even Heavy is more quiet when not on the battlefield, one of the reason why some people like Fluttershy as Heavy.
Also the Bazooka and making lots of explosions fits if you make it as a compensation for his tiny wings compared to the Scout/Sniper aka RD/shy who got pretty normal sized wings.
Also the soldier is a big and muscular class, not as much as the Heavy but that's the reason why Snowflake aka Soldier trains so much - to not lose to Big Mac aka Heavy when they do hoof wrestling.
Given that he's with the Wonderbolts who in the show seems to be a mix of show artists (stunt shows) and military (gets send out by Celestia to deal with a dragon problem in Ponyville) and he was with them and training hard just like the Soldier, he has a military background. Unlike Derpy who only likes Muffins, is a postbote and derped eyes.
Next would be the "rocket jump" - the trademark of the Soldier Class cause it's not a quick class! Exactly CAUSE Snowflake has tiny wings he is that class cause with his weapon (and some steel hoofshoes) he can jump higher and further in a "ten-seconds flat" way, much quicker then he could if he flew around like Derpy. Derpy has no mobility problem, she can fly around just normally and thus doesnt need Rocket jump at all unlike Snowflake. And if you say cause she has derped eyes she needs to be soldier then that makes zero sense. At least Snowflake's handicap with his tiny wings makes sense why he choses a big weapon which makes lots of boom, has a loud voice and is all military to appear tough plus with his weapon he can do cool stunts which he can't with his wings and he can KILL EVERYBODY WHO MAKES FUN OF HIM! YYYYYYEEEEEEEEAAAHHH!!!!!
Next is, just like with Derpy who is ALSO a blank slate and got tons of fanon stuff made for her like being Dinky's mom though we saw Golden Harvest more often and more close to Dinky than Derpy and Dinky in the show. Like when the Mane6 drive with the train to the Crystal Empire, Golden Harves and Dinky were on board and looked like they go to their holidays. Anyway back to just like Derpy, there are 100+ fanfics and many people with the opinion that Featherweight is Snowflakes little brother in other words there's fanon for Snowflake too. If you considers Derpy's fanon with Snowflake's fanon then Soldier fits Snowflake more than Derpy cause as Soldier he will train his little body to become a strong, tough and hardcore Soldier just like himself thus all the yelling, military training, etc. (though Featherweight just wanna be a journalist). Whereas Derpy is all about Muffins this and Muffins that. Not. Funny.

All that counted together Snowflake has tons more going for him to be TF2 Soldier whereas Derpy has 0 reasons for her going to be Soldier. Just for "it's funny cause she's Derpy" is no reason at all. I think Derpy was simply chosen cause she's Derpy and a fan-favorite which would get this picture/team up lots of up-votes/favorites, not cause she fits the Soldier role cause she simply doesn't fit it at all. In other words as long a Derpy is in it, People who had Twi in their head as Sniper will be less likely to go all batshit crazy cause they see adorable and sweet looking Derpy in Soldier outfit and go all daaawww.
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Metal-Kitty Featured By Owner Sep 2, 2013
I repeat myself.

Snowflake is barely a character, who has appeared in two episodes, and said but one word in one of them.  Given he's said it enough that we can assume it's catch-phrase, it's not enough to build anything on.  Derpy is by far a better known character, and definitely more beloved by fans.

The problem with matching based on personality is that concept is basically just trying to ponify the class, more or less.  I wanted to turn the ponies into classes, not the other way around.  I wanted to have FUN with this, and doing what you said, I would have basically had done Meet the Soldier; just with a lot less talking, and there's no fun in that.
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JamesRye Featured By Owner Sep 2, 2013
Just cause he has two apperances and a catchphrase doesn't make him less suited for Soldier. I remind you that in both episodes he had tons more of apperances and action during all of the three seasons. And unlike with Derpy, there had to be no redo cause people were flipping shit cause of her voice and derped eyes. Derpy had lots of apperances but she never said a word in those and was mostly only a background pony for a second/half-a-second/less-than-half-a-second. A animation mistake turned by the fandom into a mascot and used by the MLP staff to give winks to the audience. She's better know and more beloved but she certainly has nothing that Snowflake don't have going for him too, aka that all is made up in the fandom.

If you want to have fun then that's your right. But I do remember that it was said you made those classes based on what feels right for the pony and not cause of what people decided ages ago like they did with Derpy aka AJ has to be engineer cause Accent and Twi to be Sniper cause being precise and polite or Shy Heavy cause funny (same reason you pull for Derpy being Soldier by the way).
And in most classes I agree with you as Twi make a great mad doctor or Shy a funnily polite and merciful (as merciful as you can be as sniper) sniper and ofc RD= Scout and Rarity=Spy are running basically themselves.

The only two I have beef with are Spike and Derpy for the same reasons you disliked AJ as Engineer made by fandom majority or Fluttershy being Heavy cause it's funny. And you used the same reasons for Spike and Derpy - Spike breathes fire thus Pyro, Derpy as Soldier = lolz, funny. The others makes sense those two just feel being..there. Or in Derpy's case being there cause she's well-known and well-loved and not cause she fits the Soldier class like with AJ being a drunk Demopony going on rampage or Twi being mad doc, etc.

But as you said, that's your thing, so don't take too much mind of my preferences.
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Metal-Kitty Featured By Owner Sep 2, 2013
You're right, just because he had two appearances and a catch phrase does not mean he shouldn't be soldier.  The fact that that is ALL he has had and that he is barely a character is what makes him unsuited for soldier.

Honestly, there's a lot of characters I would put as Soldier before him, had I not chosen Derpy; Gilda, Braeburn, Donut Joe, Vinyl Scratch, Thunderlane, and Prince Blueblood.  There's just not enough to Snowflake beyond 'YEEEEEAH!' to work with, and there's no real fun to be had with him.  Putting him in ANY class would be little more than a vanity project.
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Zafiro2jol Featured By Owner Aug 29, 2013
we need to  make 3D models of this  to play on tf2 !
btw  , i prefer this 'canon' than the most popular . It is just a lot more accurate and fits better to the character.
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Metal-Kitty Featured By Owner Aug 29, 2013
I'd really love to get all this actually done; I have a project (that has yet to see ANY form of motion) to build a map and get these turned into models.  I'm hoping to convince the artist making the models that are commonly used to reskin the ones they have already done to look like the ones I've come up with; though, admittedly, I'm not exactly rich, and would likely have to get help from people who'd also like to see that done.
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Darrow-R-Griffin Featured By Owner Aug 27, 2013
Am I the only one who thinks Rarity would make a good Scout? She would have to know how to dance given who she is, and I wouldn't put it past her to have taken ballet classes at some point. All in all, I'd say she'd be tough to hit dancing circles around her opponents.
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Kristoval01001 Featured By Owner Aug 11, 2013
Not a big fan of the game, but love the Artwork..!! Keep it up..!!

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StrawberryPonyArtist Featured By Owner Aug 9, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Nice :)
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Siarnaq21 Featured By Owner Aug 4, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I guess Angel is the Koala Compact.
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Chickenwhite Featured By Owner Aug 3, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Words cannot express how much I love this XDD
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ShyMedia Featured By Owner Aug 3, 2013  Hobbyist
Yes yay :)
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PrincessSummer Featured By Owner Jul 28, 2013  Student Artist
That looks cool
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Sephirath21000 Featured By Owner Jul 28, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist

'a mask does not suit her'

 

That much is true, and I'm interested in the fact that you know about the 63rd TF2 Fanmade DLC models, one of which is a completed model of the Spy which looks remarkably similar to Rarity's uniform here. Not to mention that Youtubers have managed to make voicepacks for the Team in both Female (so-far consisting of the Spy www.youtube.com/watch?v=S24Tsi… and Scout  to the best of my knowledge), and with Ponies.

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ThatGuyOnTheInterweb Featured By Owner Jul 27, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I think... your designs should be made into a mod for TF2.
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