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Meet the Engie-Pie P1 by Metal-Kitty Meet the Engie-Pie P1 by Metal-Kitty
Why Engineer?
Some people might think I did this to be different, but that's not the case. As cool as it is to break away from the main concept, I had another purpose. Truth be told, Pinkie Pie always strikes me as a gadgeteer - she has a party cannon, a propeller bike, that weird... oven... confetti cannon mish-mash device, and who knows what else? By far, Pinkie has definatly made her place as the pony with the greatest tendency towards using gadgets and devices. While her personality may not match the Engineer, her tendency towards devices does.

Why not Pyro?
Truth be told, given the original matchups were made before Meet the Pyro, I have no idea how Pinkie got matched with everyone's favorite arsonist beyond maybe people reading Cupcakes and taking her depressive episode as a hint towards a darker self. The Pyro really does not fit Pinkie - she's a party-pony, she likes to have fun, and while one could argue running around setting things on fire fits that, I dare say it just doesn't strike me as Pinkie.

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LuminaBalderson Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2014
I think that Pinkie fits Scout better, because she's both fast enough to keep up with RD, and can break the fourth wall.

Still, I enjoy seeing what your take on them is, because you do well meshing together their roles.
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DJMorphasis Featured By Owner Oct 27, 2014
I say Pyro somewhat fits her because in meet the pyro it clearly shows that he may be burning and killing everyone, but he thinks he's running around having fun spreading rainbows and sugar. I'd say that fits Pinkie.
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Metal-Kitty Featured By Owner Oct 27, 2014
Somewhat, yes.  I wasn't aiming for "somewhat".

I wanted something that felt substancial.  The Pyro's hallucination is a result of Pyromania; he's not trying to make others happy or anything, he's just reveling in the destruction.  I wanted something that not only encapsulated Pinkie Pie, but that Pinkie Pie could also bring a flair to.  Pinkie fits Pyrovision, but what of the rest? The pyromania? The fire? The (relative) silence?

I felt Pyro was self-limiting, so I wanted a class I could explain for Pinkie that did not rely heavily on one trivial trait that could explain why any of them would be insane.
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Poppun Featured By Owner Oct 5, 2014
Come to think of it, doesn't Andrea Libman have an engineering degree?

In Pinkie's case you could use that as a bonus argument in favour of "Engie Pie"
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Metal-Kitty Featured By Owner Oct 5, 2014
I did, but apparently to some it doesn't hold as much water as Pyro seeing candy canes and rainbows all the time. :P

Ah well.  I still like Engie Pie more than Pinkie Pyro.
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4spirits Featured By Owner Sep 21, 2014
You know what? It's not what I expected, but I like it!
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merc267 Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2014

I don't believe the reason why people picked Pinkie as pyro is not just because of Cupcakes or she's an arsonist (let's be honest neither is Spike, so that excuse could be used  against almost every mane 6 cast). The reason why people picked Pinkie is because both Pinkie and Pyro act like children. Both their minds are child-like and they believe everything is happy, unless Pyro takes off his pyro goggles, or Pinkie opens her freakin' eyes and see the danger that is in front of her, or the dangers that both Pinkie and her friends are going to deal with (*cough* Dragonshy *cough*).

Another reason why people picked Applejack as Engineer is not just because she's a country pony like the Engineer himself, but the fact is that she is a known female character that rebuilds/build things. A great example. Her barn. Almost every season, her barn will be destroyed, and she and her brother Big Mac will be there to always rebuild it. And during the times she's not rebuilding, she's seen applebucking, and selling apples. True that she isn't the type of pony that could do math problem, but let's be honest, neither is Pinkie. In fact, if we think of one pony that is extremely good with math, Pinkie would be last in the list. Applejack rebuilding barns, fences, etc is similar to the Engineer building a sentry, dispenser and teleporters. Applejack's applebucking is similar to Engineer collecting metals. Applejack selling apples is similar to the Engineer's dispenser giving away ammo, health, and metal to his team. And that's why people choose her rather than Pinkie. But whatever floats your boat dude.

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Metal-Kitty Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2014
First off, I know Pinkie's personality sinks up with the Pyro's hallucinations; like I said before, I don't care about personality match-up unless all else fails.  My main focus is skill and habit.  Skill because, let's face it, Twilight Sparkle only shooting straight is boring and dull for a character who is supposed to be a wizard.  I took into account Pinkie Pie's use of gadgets; she is the only character to do so in great amounts.  She has toys stashed all over the place for emergencies.  She likes to throw parties.  Pinkie Pie is not a one trick pony - she does a lot of things.  Making her a class whose only skills are setting things on fire and un-setting things on fire? That's extremely limiting for Ms. Pie.  For me, it had to be either a class that was noisy (Heavy, Soldier, Demo) or a class that was resourceful (Engineer).

The Applejack thing has me confused - when did Applejack ever build anything? Besides the raft in Pinkie Apple Pie, that is (her family helped build that; we have no idea just how much skill she has in building).  During the Apple Family Reunion, she simply sang while everyone else built the barn, and I forget if she has implied the need to build a new barn after Rainbow destroyed the old one or if a new one already existed and said old barn was just overdue for demise? I don't really think we've ever seen Applejack build or imply building anything on her own, or even build anything with the greatest amount of work put into it.  If I'm wrong, please correct me. :P  Sure, we've never seen Pinkie do it either, but we know she uses gadgets; that already sticks her up higher than AJ.  Bonus points if she actually does build her stuff (which we also do not know).

Spike actually uses fire, and is actually fire-resistant; the personality differences are negligible.  Pinkie actually uses gadgets and is notorious for multi-tasking; that made her ideal for Engie.  When you match by personality, you often force an extreme limiter on the characters; like stuffing someone in a closet with no elbow space.  Sometimes, you even introduce them to outright contradictions (Twilight Sparkle calling Applejack 'egghead' and 'booksmarts' particularly bugged me. :P)
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zappo210 Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2013
other then her supposed love of devices, what else is there.

for starters, she's ADD, so she'd probably be distracted by a butterfly before she came close to building that nest of hers.

second, pinkie pie may be smart in fourth wall stuff and various jokes, but lets be honest here: SHES STUPID AS HELL OTHERWISE. She doesnt know when to take a hint, she wastes money on parties, and she's just a total ditz most of the time.
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Metal-Kitty Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2013
She loves to help, and she's shown herself to be resourceful; Pinkie is, as such, very suited for someone who would serve more than one job.  Being able to play a mix of support, defense, and offense fits well for the mare who does a little of everything.

Pinkie isn't stupid at all; we're never lead to believe she is.  She can be oblivious, yes, but even Twilight can be caught off guard.
Pinkie Pie was smart enough to try to plan to lead the Parasprites away before they multiplied; sure, that sounds like a common sense thing, but considering nopony else even knew what parasprites were, she not only knew that much, but knew how to get rid of them, and was working on it from the very begining.

She has her party cannon, her oven/confetti cannon combo device, her gyrocopter... she may have built those herself.  Sure, we don't have evidence she did, but they definitely have a very Pinkie-Pie flare to them.  (After all, a comic revealed the Engi didn't invent his sentries; Radigan did).

Pinkie Pie has not shown any known limits in the cartoon; she has shown herself to be occasionally oblivious and easily distracted, yes, but when she sets her mind on a task, she sticks with it.  When she wants something done, more often than not, it's done.  Once she figures it out, she becomes an instant expert.

Really, Pinkie could probably fit any role in this game.
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zappo210 Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2013
the entire role of pinkie pie in that parasprite episode was that one joke which EVERYONE saw coming.


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Metal-Kitty Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2013
So? Does that render the act less valid?

She still did it.  It was still within her capability and, as such, is just as valid as Twilight's magic, Applejack's strength, Rainbow's speed, Rarity's fashion sense, and Fluttershys animal skills.  Even if there was a hint of humor to be had, the fact of the matter is she did it, and she did it consciously.
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zappo210 Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2013
i repeat: it was a joke. if it wasn't, they could have just had twilight find the answer in a book or some shit.
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Metal-Kitty Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2013
And I repeat.

She still did it.
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GenoGod21 Featured By Owner Oct 3, 2013  Student Digital Artist
*Giggles* Engie-Pie has a nice ring to it
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useraccount Featured By Owner Sep 1, 2013

"Truth be told, Pinkie Pie always strikes me as a gadgeteer - she has a party cannon, a propeller bike, that weird... oven... confetti cannon mish-mash device, and who knows what else? By far, Pinkie has definatly made her place as the pony with the greatest tendency towards using gadgets and devices."

 

I know you hate the idea of "Pinkie Pyro", but this is why Pinkie could be the Pyro too, even if you completely ignore the rather weak "lol batshit insane" angle.  The Pyro built/jury-rigged several of his weapons (Powerjack, Degreaser, Detonator, Axtinguisher/Postal Pummeler). 

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Metal-Kitty Featured By Owner Sep 1, 2013
Yeah, but the same could be said for many of the other classes as well.  The difference is that the Engineer *IS* the Gadgeteer class.  I wanted to draw the absolute most out of it, and the Pyro did not have enough ground to justify using him for Pinkie.

I went for skills over all else, and I refused to focus on anything stupid or unfounded as 'Cupcakes Pinkie'.  Engineer draws out her personality the most; she can wait for others to come to her parties (most builds) or she can bring the party to them (gunslinger) - Sentries = Party Cannons, Dispensers = Party Favors, Teleporters = Hey, it's Pinkie, who better to break the laws of reality?

Pinkie Pyro?

She's never shown any level of fascination in fire, and while she has gone nuts, she's never been dangerous about it - Twilight's nervous break downs are more dangerous than Pinkie's more 'make friends with furniture' method of insanity.
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marcuszer0 Featured By Owner Aug 27, 2013
I can agree with your argument on how people were matching Pinkie before meet the pyro. People had nothing to relate Pinkie to fire, and had nothing else to go on at the time, so they were pretty much pulling a crack pair out of their asses. However, you have to admit, after meet the pyro, there is no better match for the pyro. Pinkie goes spreading around happiness and laughter, just the same way as the pyro does... In his head, and what everyone else sees is a horrible, psychotic beast of an unholy creature of death and destruction. How delightful of a fit would out be if our little Pie sister was only so happy and friendly in her own sight, and to the rest of the world, she's Pinkamena the horrible, psychotic beast of an unholy creature of death and destruction that this fandom had grown to know and adore?

I realize there's probably a thousand comments telling you that you're wrong and that you are just stupid for ignoring the characters, but I'm just trying to express that, I completely agree with Pinkie the Engineer, but I just think pyro fits her better now, post-video. I still look very much forward to the reveal of who you thought deserved the role of the crazed flamer more.
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Metal-Kitty Featured By Owner Aug 28, 2013
The Pyro doesn't like to 'run around spreading happiness' as it were - he simply runs around and, far as he knows, plays with cherubs in a land made of sweets.  While this aspect does, in fact, fit Pinkie Pie, it was too obvious; I couldn't play with the concept at all.  Pinkie Pie was made engineer because I could play with that concept - the buildings could be stylized to look like something she made, as opposed to simply being the regular old models.

Pinkie also never exhibited any dangerously psychotic episodes, despite popular belief - worst she did was make friends with inanimate objects.  The Pyro maybe nuts, but the core of his character is still obvious - FIRE.  The Meet the Pyro I have planned? Well, I hope it will convince you I'm right - I already know what I'm going to do, and it's probably gonna be the most creative one yet. :)

My main goal was to not only make viable matchups, but part of it was intentionally to look for a few things I could stylize or alter in some way befitting a character's nature - Pinkie is extravagant, so her buildings are brightly colored and she wears a baker's apron instead of overalls.  Rainbow is fangirlish, so she wears her Wonderbolt Academy Recruit outfit.  Twilight is a scientist, so her 'Emergency Room' setting is really a laboratory.  Rarity... okay, that one was obvious and I just had trouble working around it.

Sure, I could stylize things with the original matchups, but they would be very hollow, empty, and not very fun at all.  I matched personality and core component, crunched numbers, etc. to come up with what I got. :)
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marcuszer0 Featured By Owner Aug 28, 2013
I see your point... Not much could come from Pinkie being a Pyro besides the matching insanity, while other characters you have matched up can bring mixable qualities from either side of the match. A party cannon and cupcakes doesn't really fit the Pyro outside of the Meet the Pyro dream sequence, and Pinkie's not one for fire unless it's coming from a stove or a pile of logs beneath a marshmallow on a stick.

I still say, however, that if you're spreading rainbows and giving angel babies lollipops in a magical land of big rolling hills of candy and magic, you're pretty much trying to spread happiness as much as you can. Also, when I say that Pinkie is psychotic, I obviously mean what this fandom has made her (for better or for worse), all that a very much infamous fanfic written by a clown pony known as Sergent Sprinkles, sparked and ignited among the Brony community. Everyone knows that, while Pinkie is horribly inflicted with a hard case of ADHD and generated more energy than a nuclear reactor, canon to the show, she's no killer... Even if she IS, quite literally, insane.

Still can't wait to see Spi-- er, whoever you picked for the role of Pyro, getting a good comic like the rest of them.
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Metal-Kitty Featured By Owner Aug 29, 2013
I don't think the Pyro even matches Pinkie with the insanity; there's a fine line between being insane and being hyperactive.  The most insane thing we've seen Pinkie do was make friends with inanimate objects.

You seem to think I'm trying to do a cut-and-paste thing here; far from it.  I'm picking match-ups based on how well the character fits the class based by ability and flavor, as opposed to personality.  While much of the Meet the Team concepts are the same, I make underlying differences; in Meet the Twimedic, Twilight is not as unfazed by Mac's exploding heart as the Medic is the Heavy's.  She gets nervous and goes into 'I can fix it' mode.  Pinkie is not a southern-accented good-ol-girl pony; but she does build things, and she's a sight to behold when you turn the wrong corner.

Pinkie buildsparties, Applejack is tough, Rainbow is fast, Twilight is smart/magical, Rarity is fashionable/sleek, Fluttershy is shy/distant... that's the stuff I'm aiming for.

Also, no point hiding it now; Spike is going to be Pyro, and boy do I have plans.
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marcuszer0 Featured By Owner Aug 30, 2013
Alright, hold on for a second. You're absolutely right about Pinkie's most insane moment being when she snapped in Party of One, but is that not enough to prove her at least momentary insanity? Pinkie was having a mental breakdown where she thought Rocky, Madam Le' Flour, Sir Lintsalot, and any others I'm forgetting the names of, were straight-up talking to her. About how horrible her friends were. And she was arguing, then lost the argument, with all of these still inanimate objects, being swayed by 'their' opinions. Now, I do shit like this all the time when I play video-games, but I know it's all merely a machination of my own mind, use to have a bit of fun with the game's characters (me and Ezio Auditore argue over his judgement as far as his trust in friends go, as well as his climbing abilities, while Issac Clark is always trying to say he's fucking fine when he's nearly dead). She lets a pile of rocks shape her opinion on her friends, with a voice she doesn't know is inside her own head. This is insanity right here, even if its only there briefly.

As for your other points, I'm sorry if I didn't make this clear with my last message, but I agree with you on your character selection completely. Your reasoning is sound, as insanity alone is not really enough to carry the Pyro, and that's all Pinkie and Pyro have in common, not to mention that only the fanon Pinkie Pie has more than just a short-lived snapping point going for her in evidence of a homicidal maniac, not nearly enough to merit good reason to make her Pyro.

Finally, in your defense, you hid Spike as a Pyro very well, and only with my amazing detective skills could I so perfectly deduce his identity. It was very hard to see hits completely distinctive shape, so cleverly hidden right out in the open where everyone could see, right behind Rainbow Dash.
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Metal-Kitty Featured By Owner Aug 30, 2013
Pinkie was probably not so much insane as she was crazy.  You have to remember, as far as mental breakdowns goes, she was very subdued; she literally just sat there and talked to inanimate objects.  A lot of people take that and blow it up to extent to psychopathic murderer levels, but far as I can tell, she was content to sit in her room and mope for the rest of her life -- or until she cheered up.

Pinkie as what I like to call 'Cupcakes Pinkie' is an entirely fan-based concept that stretched the situation where she became manic depressive, and jumps from making friends with inanimate objects to making PONIES inanimate objects.

And I don't doubt you think my current setup makes sense; it's just I was never fond of the Pinkie-Pyro match-up; at first, it made no sense, and then it simply something else.  Once more, considering I've seen Twilight have worse bouts of insanity more frequently, I decided to do something different.

I just have a compulsive need to explain myself. xD
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marcuszer0 Featured By Owner Aug 30, 2013
And I, the compulsive need to have any discussion I'm in come to a complete end, where all parties reach a consensus of opinions (you have no idea how hard that is over the internet... Or maybe you do... It's why I almost never open my mouth at the comments section).

I think, ironically, between the words insane and crazy, you have the situation reversed in a way that you're only (arguably) incorrect because we are speaking of this one isolated instance, where otherwise you'd near 100% of the time be absolutely correct. Insanity is a state of the mind where normal perception, behavior, and social interaction, are all obstructed. It is a state of annoyance or distraction, or of extreme irrational and illogical thinking. This definition is right on the spot for how Pinkie acts during her breakdown in Party of One, to the point that a depressed Pinkie Pie could serve as a perfect example of the definition.

Crazy, however, really is personified by someone who is mentally deranged, with specific mentions, though not limitations, to those who are wild and/or aggressive. As a second definition, it can also mean, simply to be highly enthusiastic. Both definitions fit Pinkie very well (though I'd like to point out that, for the first definition, she's much more on the wild side than the aggressive side, as she is rarely provably aggressive at all), with the exception of when she's in her depressed state, where all points of both definitions are reversed. She is very much unenthusiastic, and while she may now be aggressive (or it can be argued that she's just pissed off at her friends), her wild nature has been very much suppressed.

Also, what you call Cupcakes Pinkie, and what I call Fanon Pinkie, are the same pony.
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Metal-Kitty Featured By Owner Aug 30, 2013
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: a deranged state of the mind usually occurring as a specific disorder (as schizophrenia)
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: such unsoundness of mind or lack of understanding as prevents one from having the mental capacity required by law to enter into a particular relationship, status, or transaction or as removes one from criminal or civil responsibility

Pinkie is *not* insane.  She's hyperactive.  Save for her one bout of manic depressive schizophrenia, she's not unsound of mind, and even when she did lose her marbles, she was very subdued.
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tigreanpony Featured By Owner Aug 9, 2013
Well this doesn't surprise me one bit lol
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StrawberryPonyArtist Featured By Owner Aug 9, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Oh pinkie pie
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ChaosDrgon Featured By Owner Aug 8, 2013
Meet Engi-Pie! Destroyer of physics and baker of delicious treats!
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Infinite-Scratch Featured By Owner Aug 6, 2013
she needs more gun
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wieweser Featured By Owner Aug 8, 2013
I doubt that will work. In reality she needs more gun
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Infinite-Scratch Featured By Owner Aug 8, 2013
that wont work, she really just needs more gun
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wieweser Featured By Owner Aug 8, 2013
That will never work. More gun is the real requirement
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Infinite-Scratch Featured By Owner Aug 8, 2013
im telling you she needs more GUN!
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StudsandPierces Featured By Owner Aug 6, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
Love this series
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MasterChief01 Featured By Owner Aug 5, 2013
Hahaha!  Everyone always makes her out to be the pyro, but the engineer seems so much more appropriate!
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megadisk Featured By Owner Aug 5, 2013
i smell another tf2 mod happening :3
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templar127 Featured By Owner Aug 5, 2013
AWESOMENESS!!!
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Kitmaro Featured By Owner Aug 4, 2013
Poot cupcake dispenser here!
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Siarnaq21 Featured By Owner Aug 4, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
*"More Gun" starts playing in your head, admit it*
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Dakathi666 Featured By Owner Aug 4, 2013
It begins!
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Regiking Featured By Owner Aug 4, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
There's a Sentry sappin' mah spy!!
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theclockworkgiant Featured By Owner Aug 4, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
i dunno, how about the blueprints fundamental to your designs?
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Animewolfgamer Featured By Owner Aug 4, 2013
Nice. 
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dbluebird89d Featured By Owner Aug 4, 2013  Student Digital Artist
*slaps you on the face* THAT IS NOT THE SYSTEM!!! Applejack is the engi :( Pinkie is the pyro
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Metal-Kitty Featured By Owner Aug 4, 2013
Also, Twilight has more bouts of insanity than Pinkie, which have lead her to doing potentially hazardous things, while all Pinkie did was sit in her room, mope, and make friends with inanimate objects. X3

The only thing Pinkie and Pyro have in common is the Pyro's view of the world seems to be composed of sweets - in my mind, this is not enough to form a stable matchup.
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Metal-Kitty Featured By Owner Aug 4, 2013
*puts on a steel gauntlet, then slaps you back*
I spit on your 'system' and substitute it with my own!
A southern accent an engineer does not make! >:C
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bope33826 Featured By Owner Aug 4, 2013
There should be a pinkie pie head that you can wear in tf2
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SparklingNam Featured By Owner Aug 4, 2013
Pinkie Spy is saping my sentry !
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uncommentator Featured By Owner Aug 3, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Someone make a Party Cannon Sentry model STAT!
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