Some people might think I did this to be different, but that's not the case. As cool as it is to break away from the main concept, I had another purpose. Truth be told, Pinkie Pie always strikes me as a gadgeteer - she has a party cannon, a propeller bike, that weird... oven... confetti cannon mish-mash device, and who knows what else? By far, Pinkie has definatly made her place as the pony with the greatest tendency towards using gadgets and devices. While her personality may not match the Engineer, her tendency towards devices does.
Why not Pyro?
Truth be told, given the original matchups were made before Meet the Pyro, I have no idea how Pinkie got matched with everyone's favorite arsonist beyond maybe people reading Cupcakes and taking her depressive episode as a hint towards a darker self. The Pyro really does not fit Pinkie - she's a party-pony, she likes to have fun, and while one could argue running around setting things on fire fits that, I dare say it just doesn't strike me as Pinkie.
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Still, I enjoy seeing what your take on them is, because you do well meshing together their roles.
I wanted something that felt substancial. The Pyro's hallucination is a result of Pyromania; he's not trying to make others happy or anything, he's just reveling in the destruction. I wanted something that not only encapsulated Pinkie Pie, but that Pinkie Pie could also bring a flair to. Pinkie fits Pyrovision, but what of the rest? The pyromania? The fire? The (relative) silence?
I felt Pyro was self-limiting, so I wanted a class I could explain for Pinkie that did not rely heavily on one trivial trait that could explain why any of them would be insane.
In Pinkie's case you could use that as a bonus argument in favour of "Engie Pie"
Ah well. I still like Engie Pie more than Pinkie Pyro.
I don't believe the reason why people picked Pinkie as pyro is not just because of Cupcakes or she's an arsonist (let's be honest neither is Spike, so that excuse could be used against almost every mane 6 cast). The reason why people picked Pinkie is because both Pinkie and Pyro act like children. Both their minds are child-like and they believe everything is happy, unless Pyro takes off his pyro goggles, or Pinkie opens her freakin' eyes and see the danger that is in front of her, or the dangers that both Pinkie and her friends are going to deal with (*cough* Dragonshy *cough*).
Another reason why people picked Applejack as Engineer is not just because she's a country pony like the Engineer himself, but the fact is that she is a known female character that rebuilds/build things. A great example. Her barn. Almost every season, her barn will be destroyed, and she and her brother Big Mac will be there to always rebuild it. And during the times she's not rebuilding, she's seen applebucking, and selling apples. True that she isn't the type of pony that could do math problem, but let's be honest, neither is Pinkie. In fact, if we think of one pony that is extremely good with math, Pinkie would be last in the list. Applejack rebuilding barns, fences, etc is similar to the Engineer building a sentry, dispenser and teleporters. Applejack's applebucking is similar to Engineer collecting metals. Applejack selling apples is similar to the Engineer's dispenser giving away ammo, health, and metal to his team. And that's why people choose her rather than Pinkie. But whatever floats your boat dude.
The Applejack thing has me confused - when did Applejack ever build anything? Besides the raft in Pinkie Apple Pie, that is (her family helped build that; we have no idea just how much skill she has in building). During the Apple Family Reunion, she simply sang while everyone else built the barn, and I forget if she has implied the need to build a new barn after Rainbow destroyed the old one or if a new one already existed and said old barn was just overdue for demise? I don't really think we've ever seen Applejack build or imply building anything on her own, or even build anything with the greatest amount of work put into it. If I'm wrong, please correct me. Sure, we've never seen Pinkie do it either, but we know she uses gadgets; that already sticks her up higher than AJ. Bonus points if she actually does build her stuff (which we also do not know).
Spike actually uses fire, and is actually fire-resistant; the personality differences are negligible. Pinkie actually uses gadgets and is notorious for multi-tasking; that made her ideal for Engie. When you match by personality, you often force an extreme limiter on the characters; like stuffing someone in a closet with no elbow space. Sometimes, you even introduce them to outright contradictions (Twilight Sparkle calling Applejack 'egghead' and 'booksmarts' particularly bugged me. )
Pinkie isn't stupid at all; we're never lead to believe she is. She can be oblivious, yes, but even Twilight can be caught off guard.
Pinkie Pie was smart enough to try to plan to lead the Parasprites away before they multiplied; sure, that sounds like a common sense thing, but considering nopony else even knew what parasprites were, she not only knew that much, but knew how to get rid of them, and was working on it from the very begining.
She has her party cannon, her oven/confetti cannon combo device, her gyrocopter... she may have built those herself. Sure, we don't have evidence she did, but they definitely have a very Pinkie-Pie flare to them. (After all, a comic revealed the Engi didn't invent his sentries; Radigan did).
Pinkie Pie has not shown any known limits in the cartoon; she has shown herself to be occasionally oblivious and easily distracted, yes, but when she sets her mind on a task, she sticks with it. When she wants something done, more often than not, it's done. Once she figures it out, she becomes an instant expert.
Really, Pinkie could probably fit any role in this game.
She still did it. It was still within her capability and, as such, is just as valid as Twilight's magic, Applejack's strength, Rainbow's speed, Rarity's fashion sense, and Fluttershys animal skills. Even if there was a hint of humor to be had, the fact of the matter is she did it, and she did it consciously.
"Truth be told, Pinkie Pie always strikes me as a gadgeteer - she has a party cannon, a propeller bike, that weird... oven... confetti cannon mish-mash device, and who knows what else? By far, Pinkie has definatly made her place as the pony with the greatest tendency towards using gadgets and devices."
I know you hate the idea of "Pinkie Pyro", but this is why Pinkie could be the Pyro too, even if you completely ignore the rather weak "lol batshit insane" angle. The Pyro built/jury-rigged several of his weapons (Powerjack, Degreaser, Detonator, Axtinguisher/Postal Pummeler).
I went for skills over all else, and I refused to focus on anything stupid or unfounded as 'Cupcakes Pinkie'. Engineer draws out her personality the most; she can wait for others to come to her parties (most builds) or she can bring the party to them (gunslinger) - Sentries = Party Cannons, Dispensers = Party Favors, Teleporters = Hey, it's Pinkie, who better to break the laws of reality?
She's never shown any level of fascination in fire, and while she has gone nuts, she's never been dangerous about it - Twilight's nervous break downs are more dangerous than Pinkie's more 'make friends with furniture' method of insanity.
I realize there's probably a thousand comments telling you that you're wrong and that you are just stupid for ignoring the characters, but I'm just trying to express that, I completely agree with Pinkie the Engineer, but I just think pyro fits her better now, post-video. I still look very much forward to the reveal of who you thought deserved the role of the crazed flamer more.
Pinkie also never exhibited any dangerously psychotic episodes, despite popular belief - worst she did was make friends with inanimate objects. The Pyro maybe nuts, but the core of his character is still obvious - FIRE. The Meet the Pyro I have planned? Well, I hope it will convince you I'm right - I already know what I'm going to do, and it's probably gonna be the most creative one yet.
My main goal was to not only make viable matchups, but part of it was intentionally to look for a few things I could stylize or alter in some way befitting a character's nature - Pinkie is extravagant, so her buildings are brightly colored and she wears a baker's apron instead of overalls. Rainbow is fangirlish, so she wears her Wonderbolt Academy Recruit outfit. Twilight is a scientist, so her 'Emergency Room' setting is really a laboratory. Rarity... okay, that one was obvious and I just had trouble working around it.
Sure, I could stylize things with the original matchups, but they would be very hollow, empty, and not very fun at all. I matched personality and core component, crunched numbers, etc. to come up with what I got.
I still say, however, that if you're spreading rainbows and giving angel babies lollipops in a magical land of big rolling hills of candy and magic, you're pretty much trying to spread happiness as much as you can. Also, when I say that Pinkie is psychotic, I obviously mean what this fandom has made her (for better or for worse), all that a very much infamous fanfic written by a clown pony known as Sergent Sprinkles, sparked and ignited among the Brony community. Everyone knows that, while Pinkie is horribly inflicted with a hard case of ADHD and generated more energy than a nuclear reactor, canon to the show, she's no killer... Even if she IS, quite literally, insane.
Still can't wait to see Spi-- er, whoever you picked for the role of Pyro, getting a good comic like the rest of them.
You seem to think I'm trying to do a cut-and-paste thing here; far from it. I'm picking match-ups based on how well the character fits the class based by ability and flavor, as opposed to personality. While much of the Meet the Team concepts are the same, I make underlying differences; in Meet the Twimedic, Twilight is not as unfazed by Mac's exploding heart as the Medic is the Heavy's. She gets nervous and goes into 'I can fix it' mode. Pinkie is not a southern-accented good-ol-girl pony; but she does build things, and she's a sight to behold when you turn the wrong corner.
Pinkie buildsparties, Applejack is tough, Rainbow is fast, Twilight is smart/magical, Rarity is fashionable/sleek, Fluttershy is shy/distant... that's the stuff I'm aiming for.
Also, no point hiding it now; Spike is going to be Pyro, and boy do I have plans.
As for your other points, I'm sorry if I didn't make this clear with my last message, but I agree with you on your character selection completely. Your reasoning is sound, as insanity alone is not really enough to carry the Pyro, and that's all Pinkie and Pyro have in common, not to mention that only the fanon Pinkie Pie has more than just a short-lived snapping point going for her in evidence of a homicidal maniac, not nearly enough to merit good reason to make her Pyro.
Finally, in your defense, you hid Spike as a Pyro very well, and only with my amazing detective skills could I so perfectly deduce his identity. It was very hard to see hits completely distinctive shape, so cleverly hidden right out in the open where everyone could see, right behind Rainbow Dash.
Pinkie as what I like to call 'Cupcakes Pinkie' is an entirely fan-based concept that stretched the situation where she became manic depressive, and jumps from making friends with inanimate objects to making PONIES inanimate objects.
And I don't doubt you think my current setup makes sense; it's just I was never fond of the Pinkie-Pyro match-up; at first, it made no sense, and then it simply something else. Once more, considering I've seen Twilight have worse bouts of insanity more frequently, I decided to do something different.
I just have a compulsive need to explain myself. xD
I think, ironically, between the words insane and crazy, you have the situation reversed in a way that you're only (arguably) incorrect because we are speaking of this one isolated instance, where otherwise you'd near 100% of the time be absolutely correct. Insanity is a state of the mind where normal perception, behavior, and social interaction, are all obstructed. It is a state of annoyance or distraction, or of extreme irrational and illogical thinking. This definition is right on the spot for how Pinkie acts during her breakdown in Party of One, to the point that a depressed Pinkie Pie could serve as a perfect example of the definition.
Crazy, however, really is personified by someone who is mentally deranged, with specific mentions, though not limitations, to those who are wild and/or aggressive. As a second definition, it can also mean, simply to be highly enthusiastic. Both definitions fit Pinkie very well (though I'd like to point out that, for the first definition, she's much more on the wild side than the aggressive side, as she is rarely provably aggressive at all), with the exception of when she's in her depressed state, where all points of both definitions are reversed. She is very much unenthusiastic, and while she may now be aggressive (or it can be argued that she's just pissed off at her friends), her wild nature has been very much suppressed.
Also, what you call Cupcakes Pinkie, and what I call Fanon Pinkie, are the same pony.
Pinkie is *not* insane. She's hyperactive. Save for her one bout of manic depressive schizophrenia, she's not unsound of mind, and even when she did lose her marbles, she was very subdued.
The only thing Pinkie and Pyro have in common is the Pyro's view of the world seems to be composed of sweets - in my mind, this is not enough to form a stable matchup.
I spit on your 'system' and substitute it with my own!
A southern accent an engineer does not make! >:C